Category: Let's talk
Ok. Well, it looks as if I have to do the hard work around here, because it is clear to me cl's on here think they have so much power and in all actuality, nothing gets done. If someone says "oh remove post number 5" they jump and remove it. They make no judgement on what is and is not right. When i say Cl's, I am not pointing fingers at anyone.
If I was a cl, every single one of you could bet your ass that I would keep on top of things and keep privacy just that, private. Cl's are quite avasive in their threats and most of the time never make sense, as the email I got from singer of songs didn't. At least I give valid reasons for why I do stuff.
Therefore, let me start by giving a list of users who should be banned, and why they should be.
Mygodchosenbride&ifinally
reason: bashing of others, promoting services in an inappropriate manner.
BlackBird
Reason: Inappropriate language/profile.
I can't think of any other users off the top of my head. if anyone has any other recommendations let me know or post them here.
Now lets start going down the list of board topics that should be deleted. i mean the entire topic removed, and not just single posts in them.
0 tolerence on the zonebbs
reason: bashing of others, making threats/offensive language
I am cunt trap
reason: posting of private emails, fowl language/bashing of other
Some Ftp questions posted by rat
reason: duplicate posting of topics. There is already another topic with this topic.
questions about facebook should be moved to the main category because it is not related to technology.
My telespace rule it rocks
reason: this should be deleted for bashing of others, fowl language/promotion of services inappropriately. This user should also be banned do to explicit language/depicting sexual images in profile.
My telespace in your face
reason: this should be deleted simply for duplicate posting to the my telespace rocks. Consequently nothing is being occomplished by these topics anyway.
as posted by singer of songs, for example, he says what users post to the zone is strictly on them and they are responsible for any threats shot back at them. However I would make sure users kept their privacy.
Bottom line, you can commit murder on this site and they wouldn't flinch. If they are going to me moderaters on here how about doing it right and looking out for others, that is the right thing to do. I may seem harsh but I do care about people. Obviously this is only a dream and know I will never get picked as a cl because all the other current cl's think they are the stuff.
As for my reasons stated above. I don't mind fowl language, however when it is being used to bash others and act in an inappropriate manner there is just no need for that. It isn't a hard concept. Simple, if it continues, delete the topic and bann the offending user after 3 times of warning. Don't just wait until another user says something because by that time things probably have already gotten out of hand.
We are all tired of duplicate topics and is taking up space on the zone, this is another reason for me to clean up this place and be a cl.
CL's should also keep an eye on user profiles. There have been many user profiles with rediculously inappropriate text/audio profiles.
Please, I need your support if any of you want me as a cl. I'm sure there are many people who want change done here. I am the one who will help make that change. Those of you who know me, I am not a control freak, I just want to help me and make this joint a cleaner place. Some areas on here are like the philly part of the zone.
Thanks for all your support.
Rock on man!
They may flinch at murder, but they don't flinch at attempted murder. We arn't your mom and dad what people post is there responsibility and we don't need babysitters to make sure no ones feelings get hurt.
Jared is right. And, as it stands currently, we are told to bann people only if they violate the terms of service. Had you actually bothered to read the application, you may have realized that. Just because something is offensive to you, doesn't mean it is so to the rest of the world. You may not like foul language, but people use it, and it's part of life. Don't like what someone says? That's fine, but that doesn't give you the right to bann that particular user just because he or she decides to make an ass out of themselves or others. There are an extensive set of ignore features available to each user on this site for a reason. Naming specific individuals who you want banned doesn't help your case any. Can you do this in the real world? If so, I'd love to know your trick, because as far as I can tell, such things don't happen. Ignore the list of people you find offensive and get on with your life. My bottom line is that by creating this actual topic, you will most likely never become a CL because of your extreme views on things. While it's great that you let your opinion interfere with potential judgement calls, the actual position calls for objectivity, which you clearly have demonstrated in the above statements isn't a strong point for you. Finally, becoming a CL is not done via a voting process, it's more of a job application type situation. Popularity contests are simply a waste of time, and we don't pick cl's that way. Look at it as more of a job application process. We have to work with the people we select on a daily basis, so just because the zoneBBS community thinks they would make a good CL doesn't necissarily mean they actually will. CL's are selected based on both their answers to the application questions and also how they conduct themselves around here. And anyone with a specific motivation or purpose to becoming a cl is frowned upon, especially when it involves just pushing the bann button on other users. One more thing: I'm not speaking on behalf of the rest of the staff here, these are just my personal observations based on what I've read. If this site bothers you so much, my advice would be to move on to another one, or, perhaps creating your own site similar to this would let you walk a mile in our shoes and give you a new perspective on things. If your newly created site is run better and is what most people would deem more usable, than people will migrate to it. Finally, don't you think you have posted such atopic at the wrong time? You seem to have neglected to realize we're not looking for a new cl. My vote? No way.
Lol Cody. You're kidding? Anyway, my vote, counting for aught as it does...lol Cody, you're kidding?
I never said I get offended, because I don't. I'm saying if people want to make asses of themselves, how about we remove them,. You are saying this because apparently you like having asses on the zone. It doesn't bother me one bit. However, this place has become a dump since i joined and figured I would clean it up a bit. However, you want it to remain a dump with jackasses like such, fine by me. You let your work place run like this and no one would want to work for you. If you let your corporate profiles involve giving head or watching people take craps and get off by it, you've got some management issues. thats all I'm saying on that. I've already said above, which I know you didn't read because of the ignorant cl you are, that I wasn't going to become a cl. Who gives a rotten shit if I get banned. I don't care. I don't live on this site like blackbird prince/princess of darkness and among others. I have a life, which is why I think this site is one of the lowest sites for a community with some of the aditudes people have on here.
Boy watching people show off ignorants is fun.
of course there has been a lot of polemical aspects on wether a review system is always correct or not. The most relevant aspects or views on this though is the interpretation of different rules and so called laws. Of course, i can witness when the terms of service (this site is a service?) were not into place. There were similar issues that always circulated the site in some form or other. Apparently this got a bit out of hand and so we added ten rules (plus some other sub-sections) which encompass a few things that others wanted to be seen addressed. Apparently, this site is driven by its members, but I am starting to see where the freedom of speech that used to be there before is not there anymore. i suppose that many of these things occur when this kind of freedom exists. I am really not sure what the deal on the "no nos" of posting are, but i can tell you that if these things were not there this would of course not be the only forum which has that kind of content. Furthermore, analyzing that the need for other people to "oversee" different areas of the site (which was primarily "driven by its members") plus the need for censoring a few things here and there locks liberties further. It is crytical to further break this down in the interpretation of the terms of service. As clear as they might appear to be we apparently too need some kind of judicial system in order to have that done for us because we sacrifize less thought for the sake of convenience. Of course htough, this is a site which has been up and out for some time. I too remember when anyone could join the site regardless of how old they were and the like. Its sad to see that laws are taking over and so thus we had to implement the law that bans everyone under 13 from joining. You see, I can downright shoot this out the window, because people can lie on the internet. besides, what if you did not lilve in the uNited States of "America"? will you be stopped from joining the site because you are 13 and are outside the United States? Why no other sites (forums, boards, e-mail) have implemented this so called law yet? THIS, is exactly what happens when you try to please everyone. This bunch of ridiculous rants, board posts, some dubbious and often unconsiderate replies are a great deal to much of the effectst of ruling out many things. Not that rules should not exist, but I would speak out for clarity when actions are performed. There should never be an exception to the rule nor an extra enforcement of any particular rule more than the others. I would say that some rules here are left and treated as if they wre never there and others are a case of life or death. So what, you're not getting paid for your job after all anyway are you? These things are deviating a lot of people outside other issues. This site was primarily to "waste time" and get away from the "more stressful parts of life". Apparently, by asking other to recruit and aid in the over seeing process and by blaiming things on others, wether directly or indirectly makes this look exactly the opposite of its purpose. A mild suggestion is to froget about all of these things and indeed, move on, but at the same time a person must be able to carefully read through and have an open mind to someone else's points. There has always been a time in which we would have liked our opinions to be expressed or said differently and this topic to me is no exception.
Nothing more needs to be said but I'll say it anyway. This topic should be moved to the "waste of time board", hmm, perhaps I'll put that in zone suggestions, grin. Seriously squiggles, like others have said, read the TOS, read the cl app, the stuff you propose is against either, or both of those. You do not get my vote. In fact I'd go so far as to say I'd protest if you ever *did* become a cl. When you are in a position of power a certain amount of diplomacy has to be used, as is used, in my experience with the current cl and admin team. I read an answer of yours to one of Rat's topics about ftp that was at best rude, and at worst belittling and ignorant. Not good qualities for a cl really are they? And if anyone is thinking of talking about the pot calling the kettle black, I agree, I'd suck at being a cl too. *applies for this post to be moved to the rant board* I'm done.
Cheers,
Simon
wow. for once, I agree with simon about this being moved to the waste of time board. hell, just move it to the trash!
I agree with Simon and Shark. Dude, are you serious?
agree with everyone who said they wouldn't vote fory ou, after reading those lengthy, and well-worded posts.
Well, I think squiggles is simply used to different types of sites. I would agree with this suggestion for any purpose driven, organized site, dedicated to a topic, say computer programming or any type of site dedicated specifically to intellectual discussions.
But the whole aim of this site is to be a community, virtual play ground, if you like where people can be who they want to be (regardless what they arein real life), behave like idiots if they want to. Seeing as the site has decided on certain terms of service any behavior that does not violate that is perfectly valid. The site does not have to be organized, cevil, topic driven or anything, it is just here, whatever the people who are logged on make it. Whether you agree with what it is is an altogether different matter. I often find myself not bothering to log in, depends on the users, the boards etc, but that's my decission.
Agree with B 100%. And he put it more politely than I did too.
Cheers,
Simon
You could easily ignore some of the topics and opinions posted to this site. Noone is telling you to read them. Same goes for certain users. This site is big, and there's all kinds of people with all kinds of things to say. You can choose to associate with them or not.
Coty is right, watching people show off their ignorence is fun, just look at his response in post 6. You obviously can't read your own posts, or don't care that you are contradicting yourself. You first say you want people to vote for you as a cl, and then you later say you have no interest in becoming one? If you had no interest in this site or in whether you could become a CL or not, why bother posting this rubbish in the first place? Since you claime you always have valid reasons for what you do, what's your reason for this topic, and what's your reason for being about as consistent as John Kerry?
lmfao scott!
roflmao Scott, on both your posts. i also agree with Simon, Cam and everyone else who said this is a waste of space, and should be in the trash. what, you think anyone will take you seriously?
Cody,
I do not know why you created this topic in the first place. It was just a waste of your time.
Don't expect an answer. I spoke with him, and he says he's gonna be taking a break from the zone for a bit.
so this person launches attack on the zone, then leaves because he doesn't get his own way? what a baby.
Another waste of air, space and resources. Just like MygodandI, or whatever his name is.
Don't worry brandi, i can't spell that dolt's username either. rofl.
of course he's going to disappear, lmfao!
no offense, but maybe something else, other than him not getting his way is what is making him take a break fron the zone?
why wouldn't the little baby disappear? everyone is laughing at his so called campain, even the cl's.
but still, this site needs to be cleaned up, just a little bit, not a whole lot, just a bit. but that is just me, my view isn't extream, just there. so I sort of see where he is coming from, but at the same time, I see where you all are coming from.
my gods and what ever his name is should be banned, but not black bird. but that is just me.
I guess i don't blame him for leaving for a bit. I don't come herre much myself like i used to.
*agrees with post 26*
I agree with shadow too. THis site does need a clean up.
O, and yes, he does have other things, taht is y he's taking a break from here.
I disagree. it doesn't need a clean up. People like Kev and Garret are what make the site even worth logging into. Spice of my zone life.
I vote NO!! I mean you have a choice to ignore those you have a problem with right? Well i know I'm right.
The boards well no one's holding a gun to your head forcing you to read them are they? I think not, so why are you posting to them to begin with if your against a certain one?
I didn't say anything against yanky, I like him, and kev too. but there needs to be a line somewhere.
Jesus Christ bananas! No, I will not vote for you. I remember some topic from some other person who wanted to get in a position of power just to go around banning and punishing people and topics and behavior he just didn't like. OK, zapping a topic for "bad" language? So there's good and bad language? Didn't know they had put in place an anti-swearing policy on here. Is this going to become the land of blinkie e-mail lists where you can't even say "fuck" because it might offend some thin-skinned, emotionally unstable, religious person? I may not be one who thinks bullying or character assassination is cool and I'm not a sadist, but I believe if I don't like a topic or a particular Zoner's style of behavior, I am capable of arrowing right past what they say and moving on. I don't even use the ignore feature, imagine that!
If I was irresponsable, I'd move this topic to the joke board... I garentee you that if he did get support for what he was saying, he wouldn't have left. Otherwise, why would he have started this joke, hem, topic in the first place? I'm sure he read the board without logging in, so thanks for playing and have a nice life. LOL. Now, it's on to actually doing something productive around here...
roflmao Scott. to the people complaining that the sight needs "cleaning up", i think you should go reread the front page where it says "we are not your parents". if you don't like what someone says, put them on ignore. if you don't like a board topic, don't fuckin read it! no-one is holding a gun to your head making you click on a link, you do it cause you want to, so therefore, if you don't like what you read, that's your problem not ours. oh, and you can't stop bad language here, or in the real world either. unless it's in the terms of service of course.
another thing, people shouldn't be band just cause someone doesn't like them, after all, Lutherk is still here, and he's one of the most ignored.
Actually, to be fair, sometimes you have to read a board to see what it's about if the topic title isn't as descriptive as it should be. Nevertheless, a good thick skin and the ability to write people off as fools are good tools to cope with life, here and in the flesh-and-blood world.
yeah, but no-one makes someone write on the board if they don't like the content of it. they choose to do it of their own free will, and it's that same free will that they have to just leave the topic and not read it again, but, usually (not saying all the time) the people that complain about a certain topic, are the same people who write on it as well. my point is, that if you don't like the first post, don't keep reading.
Jesus christ bannannas? THat's a different one.
Lol, it's a Dreamcatcher-ism if memory correctly serves.
I don't think the site needs any kind of cleaning up at all. I usually disagree with kevin, and I get along great with garret. those are 2 perfect examples of how you may not like everybody on this site, but certain people, myself included, bring a certain something to this site. and come on. without the shock value zoners, or the extreme view zoners if you like, this site would either go to the goody two shoes, or be boring as hell. now that I think of it, 1 in the same actually. lol
Cam
oh right. I forgot to mention, the goody two shoes users, and the bible thumpers as well. lol
Cam
I heard a rumor, and I won't confirm it, but it's been said to me from many different sources. That's that this place wasn't as fun when I was not here. Mind you, these people didn't know me, didn't know of me, and yet, I apparently contribute a lot. With a fuck or cunt or shit word now and again? yes, totally, absolutely. Point is, Perverts, other disgusting things, bad language, they're perhaps not what makes the site what it is, but they give the site some personallity, by the way, I'm very intelligent, and I have serious conversations as well, so you can't hold too much against me. lol
garret, you were very much missed my friend. and hopefully you will nnot be leaving us for a long time. because as previously stated, it's those of us who are not afraid to speak our minds, and who sometimes go against the norm, what gives this site it's extra spicy flavor.
you're a rude little freak Garrett, and don't listen to those rumours, which were probably not even rumours in the first place, Lol :)
Yep, it did come from Dreamcatcher. Leave it to Stephen King to come up with little things that stick in your head. Next, I can agree that going into a topic just to write about how lame or useless it is seems like so much useless jaw-flapping to me. I'm like, OK, um, so what are you really going to do about it and why should we care in the first place
As for Garrett and assholes and bullies in general, I feel that on a site like this there's not much one can do about them or anyone you don't like or whatever unless you just put them on ignore or just arrow past them. If there are other things I can do, I'd like to know because I do not believe bullying should be encouraged, and I don't think people should necessarily just lie still like a lump and take it silently. I feel kind of bad about my stance on this because I also feel that silence is acceptance, but the only person's behavior I feel I can control and influence is my own, so it's best I try not to bully others and I hope I'm not seen as such.
lol, the assholes must stay
amen
Cam and Garret, i agree with you guys. if we didn't have a range of personalities on here, this place would be as borring as shit.
I ain't disappeared I just got sick of reading bullshit on here. That a problem? Or do most of you think that people are actualy entertaining.
Codiak bear. I'm a baby who says. Just because I have a life outside of this dump and don't want to put up with bullshit means I'm a baby. Someone needs to rethink their logic here.
Anyone who compares me to that doosh bag of a database entry we know as terrence or whateve the fuck his name is my god chosen death path needs to read his profile. Unlike most if not all of the bots/daily visiters here my profile actually comes from a human not a sex addict. No I wasn't refering to george Bush. But that is to be expected, since everyone on here is but normal.
Let me ask if it was such a waste of space why did all you assholes post in it? Looks like you actually were interested, but that is because you had nothing else to do, which, for a lot of people on here just like to bash people without giving valid reasons. I haven't seen one post in here which gives a valid reason why any of my material in post one is not valid. Though that doesn't surprise me, considering as I've said, all of you are but normal and like the irregular type of person, not ones who are normal like I am. Sorry about that. So it doesn't surprise me anyone didn't give any reasons why my posts were invalid, and all that was done is bitch moan and complain. Well, this is america for you, full of insentual bitchy, horny fucked up in the head, fat, lazy people. There isn't one word in that sentence that doesn't describe any of us. I bitch and that is becuase you people piss me off. I come on here thinking maybe I'll find some information that is worthwhile reading but what fills my screen disgusts me. You can't miss the ignorance. When the page loads the ignorance runs down my screen.
However I've learned my lesson never to post on this dump of a site again since people make no sense and do nothing on here, and probably the same in reality, never help people or act in a kindly manner.
For this reason, I will ask that my account be deleted. I would never want to come back to this dump again to deal with you people, but to prove that I don't need this dump to survive like many of you do, I will ask for my account to be deleted or disabled, whatever they do. Though this might take an act of congress. If they don't bann me or delete me I'll just break the tos, that'll get the job done real fast you just watch. I'm not a terrible person, I just do what it takes to get shit done. Apparently people don't mind me because I haven't been deleted yet.
On that note I'll let you go back and bitch moan and complain among yourselves.
Hmm, smacks of salina fan as well who said to me, when I asked her about why she persisted in posting the shit she did said that she wanted to be banned. Squiggles, why not just not log in? Noone is forcing you to come here, so if it is such a terrible place, then, to coin a phrase, fuck off? Also, no valid reasons given for our criticism of your original post. You want to become a cl in order to put in place some rules which directly contradict the TOS and cl app, how much more valid do you want? Thirdly, this is my oppinion, which I am entitled to post, I ask noone to agree nor disagree, they do so of their own free will. Lastly, I am in favour of some improvements to the rules for this site. Perhaps in contradiction to what I said earlier, but there you have it. That's off topic though so I'll leave that for another time and place. Have a nice day now, ya hear?
Cheers,
Simon
Squiggles. I want to thank you for this great board. I haven't been so entertained since I read the cunttrap board. Thanks again.
roflmao squiggles. just roflmao. I agree with everything people say on here. If you don't like it, just leave. What ever.
And, I love the assholes on here. rofl. They make my life more entertaining.
omg omg omg I am bored if i just read this bullshit. Agrees with Scott shark and Garrett. Keep thee assholes, and get rid of the dunces like squiggles. haha if you ever because cl I assure you you'd leaave the job very shortly because the users would make your life a a living hell.
oy anthony! the CuntTrap board is alive and well my friend
exactly Candi.
sorry cody, but are you fricken stupid?
I thought so at first, but now i am rethinking it. I have asked this question twice on the other garit board, and still, no one has answered me. All these people want a banning, and want other people banned. Well, isn't that partly, what cody wants?
Wow! Asking to be banned? That's a new one! Lol to this board, seriously! I dont even know what else to say so I'll just leave it.
hypocrisy at its best YET again. People keep on bashing this board, and oh look! lets switch to news and views and we find some originals there. And music master91, the reason why people aren't able to answer your question has to do wit this same reason. They can't simply prove things on here. While I don't agree with every banning or every duplicate, those of you who have enough brain left in your head will probably remember that the zone was bandalized at some point. There were thousands of duplicates, a lot of harassment going on, ETC. Its funny how you all say things are perfect but oh look.. a particular someone got banned and now everyone's crying pathetically, bashing community leaders, and what governs this all is lack of interpretation and coherence from some posters. There's not much you can do about posts like the cunt trap, and there's not much you can do about posts like these either. It seems that most people look only at one side of the coin and toss everything else. You are saying that most people should ignore the post they dislike and not post to it or whatever the case is, and look, rant rant rant after they see a post they dislike. These are just observations and if you have a problem with any of them you can do whatever you want. You can reflect and change your atitude, you can keep on posting, you can just acknowledge this post, youcan ignore it, because ultimately the choice is yours right? Well, my choice was to post what I haved concluded and observe about the site so far. The initial poster had probably the same purpose. Of course I don't know what the poster's intentions are, so if you are going to complain and think I'm deffending people you're barking at the wrong tree. Still, this site is the most auspicious for prejudice.
Thank you juan. Well put.